Andrew: You’re convinced we’re definitely going down, and fast. You’ve shut the door. Joanna Macy still holds that door open. She thinks we might make it through, though we very certainly may not. I pressed her on it. Was she just hedging her bets? No. And she’s designed her work to prepare us for both possibilities. I sum up her existential

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Its relentless trajectory: To bring it on, all we have to do is, um, nothing. Its overwhelming complexity: To fix it, not only do we have to do something, but, as Naomi Klein has said, we pretty much have to “change everything” about how our economy and society operates. Its asymmetries of power: Those of us most historically responsible for

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