So I going to come back to the ayahuasca in a second But before we get to that what do you think has contributed to you being as vibrant full of energy and as sharp as you are i think several things passionate about what i do and i follow my joy follow my passion so there's not a lot of resistance between what was coming through and what i want

Yeah. And, uh, they said the obstacle is the way by Ryan holiday, uh, uh, forgotten Highlander by Alistair Urquhart.

Um uh uh Ross Edgley book the art of resilience which is about his swim around he the first person to swim around the uk oh yeah six months six six hours on six hours off yeah yeah um and then a amazon prime documentary called

There's a kind of truth, I guess, to that. There's a kind of truth to that, and there's also something where, I think it's interesting how he goes from these not at all violent images of the bread and the figs to these much more violent images of these jaws of live animals, which presumably is a gladiatorial image or a hunting image, but much