Susie Conley

21:40 - Science is good at the long game of extending the tip of human knowledge. While brazen startups are good at acting boldly off of naïveté.

36:50 - It's critical to speak with people 5, 10 years ahead of you.

0:00 - Brian: “What I look for when I’m hiring designers, or what is the experience of encountering someone on the internet is”…“proof of curiosity.” Is this person curious about the world to an extent that they take action on that curiosity? One simple example is when you learn about something, and you tweet about it and share it.

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Community helps you: capture intel; we learn from our customers what they want and what they are doing; receive feature requests; learn what potential features are getting buzz before building them; users learn from each other; nowadays we even end up hiring folks through these communities.

You can also work in HCI as a practitioner, such as an engineer, and do product work and engage with the community.

38:45 - Great tips on how to dig into the literature with Google Scholar

40:30-50:00 discussion of community overlap between academic & product designer or engineers.

Bottom Line: Anyone can step into this world without a degree.

About Logseq: it is a tool to organize knowledge, a tool for bullet points. Not as technical as some, but much more technical than others: Emacs, Workflowy, Dynalist, Roam Research, Obsidian. Roam Research (a category defining “knowledge graph”)  and Obsidian are in similar spirit. It's an open source outliner software. Built on top of a datab... See more

• 26:34 - A “big source of inspiration for me [Mark] has been the world of analog tools. We’ve been thinking about how to build good digital tools for maybe 50 years or so. We have a couple thousand years of explicit and implicit study of how to create analog work environments.” Eg: personal libraries, studies, workshops, artist studios. How can we... See more