Real-world tiny clubs: "One of the things I read about while getting ready for our vacation in Japan were these famous tiny businesses: bars or izakayas with four seats, narrow little bookstores or record shops in people’s houses or the bottom floors of small buildings, hyper-specialized or themed bars owned by one passionate guy. (There’s one that

So it's nothing forever. But in the 70s and 80s, it is fair to say that probably all great visual artists in the world showed there at least once, twice or several times.

When I started the publishing house in 1980, all the great shows popped up just literally in front of our house there Whether that was Cindy Sherman or Mike Kelly Jeff Koons Christ