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3:57: Coates says he thinks he had the common person’s reaction of horror on seeing a man killed because he was speaking beliefs that killer loathed. But he wants to draw a distinction between how people die vs how they lived.

6:54: Coates asks the actual question. “Was silence not an option?” Klein responds that “Yeah, silence to me was not grieving with people.” Which is interesting. Why is his grieving with Charlie Kirk’s family and supporters of value to them? Or even morally to us, Charlie Kirk’s haters?

7:50: Coates talks about being asked by readers of Between the World and Me why he’s so pessimistic. And he talks about the forces in American history that have tried to dismantle progress towards equality and justice as soon as it is realized. (References elsewhere in talk will reveal those moments to be Reconstruction/Jim Crow, Civil Rights/Reaganism, in particular).

9:20: Talking about love/acceptance being powerful force might be self-soothing. Because hate is a powerful force too.

10:15: Ta-Nehisi starts answering when Klein calls him fatalistic for answering “Why are we losing?” with “Because sometimes we lose”. He refers to the history of political violence against Black people as a way of saying as terrible as this moment seems, its how life is for Black people in America. He speaks about how it is not his job to seek for the win, but to work for it and leave it where it may be when he dies for his children to pick up. And even when I relisten to it, it sounds so attractive. But in answer to “Why are we losing?” It is exactly as fatalistic, as deterministic as Ezra fears it is.

Around 15:30: Ezra talks about “writing them off” by playing clip of Hillary Clinton calling half of Trump supporters as deplorables. The people in the convention (who I feel Coates and other liberals in comments might say are just some “political elites”, unrepresentative of common man) are laughing in response. And I think if I look up tweets, articles, memes from the time, I’ll find liberals and activists largely laughed with that audience.

17:00: Coates’ response to “What do you think when you hear that?” is “She probably shouldn’t have said it.” Clarifies that intellectuals, writers, etc have different role (and thus different standards of speech) than politicians.

18:06: Where Ezra doubles down on his stupid article. He wasn’t doing politics Ezra. He wasn’t doing politics.

19:00: Ta-Nehisi asks if Ezra wants people to go sit outside white Evangelical churches and debate anyone with clickbait titles like “Ezra Klein OWNS white evangelicals”. Generously interpreting him, he means this very specific clickbaity thing. Because when Ezra says yeah but without the clickbait, he says I think we were doing that. And he talks about going to West Point and talking about Between the World and Me and calling out the institution for having Confederate memorials there. But, and here, I agree with Ezra, he claps back, saying “Do you really think there was no pulling back from people?” Ta-Nehisi Coates is far more sophisticated than most people. Most people aren’t happy with mere dialogue. They think those that disagree with them are deplorables. That’s the thing I wish Ezra had gotten Ta-Nehisi to respond to. Ta-Nehisi dodges Ezra’s concrete examples of left’s denouncement of people, with “You talked about Biden shouldn’t run again” counterfactual as if the presence of that factor eliminates the left’s thought policing.

23:00: Unfortunately in same exchange, my sympathy returns to Ta-Nehisi. He talks about being steadfast. And not underestimating your opponents. Ezra’s calculation about how to appeal to these people reveals he’s already lost the war for their hearts.

28:00: Ta-Nehisi reveals a thing that I think makes him compromised as an intellectual. He feels the need for solidarity to be stronger than the need to speak truth to them. Ie Black people are often the targets of hate, and he can’t be seen to say things that make them feel abandoned. Like that’s so morally-corrosive. It’s a thing you have to grapple with, but you can’t speak truth to them? That seems like a problem.

54:25: Ta-Nehisi comes back for the 3rd time in convo to Reconstruction got brutally suppressed, MLK was assassinated for peacefully resisting, its in our blood, we’re not surprised. To say that’s not fatalistic is a lie. It doesn’t have to be untrue. But as a basis for future action, its bleak. And not something non-Black people can join in with.

55:49: Ezra admits or dodges question of what his role is. Ta-Nehisi ostensibly means whether he is a writer or a politician.

1:02:34: Ezra says what he means for first time. He does mean that you’ve got to elect some pro-choice Dems because that’ll win you Nebraska. And he’s writing his column because he feels like even talking about it will bring up the spectre of betrayal. Ta-Nehisi for first time in conversation seems to agree with that position (that you elect bad candidates), but that he wants Ezra to pay more respect to the people who are afraid their agenda will be left behind if we elect that pro-choice Dem. Ezra is damningly inconsiderate of that request and that probably buries him for most intelligent people.

Advice for beginners on a learning path directed towards OS kernel and driver development.

The school actually lied to parents

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Why were police called so quickly?

Original 30 mostly not SpaceX. Might be important to why they dropped out

Oh shit!

Why are they trying to disenfranchise parents? Weird ask.